Recorded in February with possibly our most colourful guest. Paulus and Emily talk to Dean, a 53-year-old therapist and shaman, who was once told they couldn’t sing and now sings in a gospel choir and is exploring their drag persona singer Debbie Delaware. We discuss their journey through creating the perfect tattoo, their obsession with thigh high boots and identifying as a transgender women choosing to live in a gay man’s body.

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